If I wanted to do an in depth search of models, other than just the year of manufacture. Where would I look or who would I contact? Knowing that Ithaca made X number of model37's in a given year is very helpful. But if I'm looking at an older Ithaca model 37, how would I find out if it's in original configuration (as shipped from the factory).
For somebody just looking for a shotgun it isn't going to matter. For somebody looking to collect it is. I'm not sure such records exist. If they do, I would be interested. Maybe a forum header about model variations or links to the information would be helpful.
I am a new guy on this board and I saw your posting for Ithaca Serial Numbers and went to the site because I have an OLD 'New Ithaca Gun'. That is what it says on the side of the receiver. I finally figured out how to find the actual serial numbers and then went to check and see what I actually had. I thought it was a 12 gauge but it seems it is a 10 gauge instead.
Anyway, I did not find it under the New Ithaca Gun but under Crass & NIG Models the serial number is 41268 below that is A and then below that is 10. Attachments Picture of the barrels. ResizedBarrell Picture.jpg (35.44 KiB) Viewed 6701 times.
The original owner would have been the United States Government, but there are no records to show who actually carried it. The Springfield Research Center has dug through the National Archives for any recorded serial numbers, but yours is not on the list. However, it is only 161 numbers away from an Ithaca 37 which was inventoried at the Panama Ordinance Department in 1946. Note about refinishing: Military shotguns are collectable, but a collector would prefer one with some of its original finish over one that has been refinished.
The Arsenals rebuilt their firearms whenever it was needed. Many firearms that started out blued were parkerized in the rebuilding process. There are many firearms out there that show no use what so ever because of: 1) It was never issued or 2) It went through rebuild and never reissued. In this case it is actually worth more. NGun traders guide has 18 different listings on the model 37, Depending on model, nthey list by year and price listing also. NI would have to say it would be about 25- 30 years old and worth about $ 600-2,000 depending on how good of shape it's in.
The above answer is false unless you have a special '$5000 grade' model 37. Very fancy with alot of engraving and gold inlays. The Ithaca model 37 was produced from the 30's till the 80's where it ceased production for a while. Then in the nineties it was produced again. From 87 to 96 it was renamed the 87.
N There are about 30 different variations of the 37. NIn average to very good shape it would be worth $150-$500 depending on variation. NFor a precise dating and value go to www.shotgunworld.com. Then go to the forum. NI have been looking at XL900's for 12 years now and I have found out that in the last 5 years they are getting harder to find for sale. It all depends on the condition.
I have bought some Ithaca XL900's for $200.00 and I have had to pay $900.00 for some of them. Condition means alot. The gas-operated seems to be what everyone is looking for.
Also the slug barrel for the gun is what alot of people are looking for. If you need more information or pictures you can email me at [email protected] Good luck David Krupinski. First your Ithaca 20 gauge model 37 was made in 1969 and for the guy with the 371377097 your gun was made in 1974 I have model 37 serial 371473XXX and it was made in 1975. I have a Ithaca featherlight serial no 371377097 and it was built in the mid 60s. I found it on the Ithaca web site a few years ago, when there still was a web site. But have never found anywhere else to find out. I can't remember what part of the number said what 3 or 4 year range it was built, but I do remember that the numbers were in order from lower to higher in regards to older to newer.
YEAR OF MANUFACTURE OF A ITHACA 49 RIFLE The Ithaca Model 49 Single Shot Lever Action rifle was marketed from 1961 to 1978. I have a December 1961 'Guns' Magazine that has a new products section and one item listed as a new product, 'Just in time for Christmas,' was the Ithaca Model 49 selling for $19.95 and, of course, aimed at the boy's market. I have two Ithaca 49s that I just bought two days ago. They are serial numbered 246xxx and 277xxx (following standard practice the last digits of the serial numbers are kept secret to prevent any scams)so I am of the opinion that one in the 400,000 serial number range is a later one. I have found a person on the internet who is a gunsmith in Ithaca, New York and was a gunsmith for the Ithaca Gun Company for 28 years and advertises to help with telling you the year your Ithaca gun was made if you send him the model and serial number of the Ithaca Gun.
I can't think of his web site name but if you use the key words 'Ithaca Gun Repair' it will probably come up. Coincidentally, I just emailed him with my serial numbers yesterday, March 12, so I have not heard from him yet. I also want to add that his emphasis is on the Ithaca Shotguns, for which they are somewhat famous, so I am not sure if he has information on the Ithaca 49 rifle. I will also add that the Ithaca 49 was made in Germany by Erma Werke and the wood stock and forearm were reportedly put on in the USA.
I guess that is why Ithaca could put on the gun, 'Made in USA.' Note that the frame of the Model 49 is made of anodized aluminum, not blued steel, so if you think it looks different that is the reason. It appears the lever and the front sight are also aluminum.
In my opinion the Model 49 is a wonderful little gun. Moe Wadle 3-13-06 The Model 49 was made in the by Ithaca. The follow-up Model 72 was made in Germany by Erma Werke and then the wood was put on by Ithaca.
The Model 72 is a much better made rifle than the alloy cast Model 49 was. The gunsmith you mention is Les Hovencamp, just google Diamond Gunsmithing and you will reach his website. He does not list the serial numbers for the Model 49's or 72's though. Walt Snyder who wrote the 2 books on Ithaca guns was working on a 3rd book addressing the serial numbers for those models and also the Model 66 single shot shotgun among others, but to date that hasn't been completed. DeBerry 11-4-11.
N Answer nThe Model 37 was the 'workhorse' of the company, and was made in many different gauges and for different uses - i.e., a 'riot gun', trench gun', deerslayer, turkey gun, etc., etc. Each of those variables impacts the value, just as does the condition of the gun.
If you are talking about the 'standard' 12 GA Model 37 Featherweight for general use, and it is in good condition, I see prices in the $150 - $250 range on Gunbroker.com. You might want to log on and see what the market is offering. NWhat Ithaca 37? I guess in general you can figure 50 to 2000 bucks. It all depends on what you want to do with it. The XL-900 is in my eyes the best auto loader ever made (20gauge with slug barrel) for deer hunting.I have been trying to purchase one for many years.There are not alot of these guns for sale(everone who has them will not sell them).
I think a fair market price for one in good condition is around $500. Some of the 900XL shotguns have the stainless plating on the actions that include engraving. Usually the value will increase by 100-150 dollars given the condition of the gun.
I just purchased a 12 gauge 900XL for $225 at my local gun shop, but it has a poly-choke.
Ithaca Skb 500
I don't want to burst anybody's bubble, but, for the most part, the parts on the new SKB's are interchangeable with the old Ithaca SKB's. Like all O/U's, parts need to be more or less hand fitted to the individual gun. I recently broke a top ejector on my Ithaca/SKB 700.
After a call to Gun's Unlimited, I had a new ejector in days, and another couple of days for a gunsmith to fit it. If you look at the schematics on the SKB website, you'll find that parts for the Ithaca/SKB 500, 600, and 700, and the SKB 500, 505, 585, 600, 605, 685, 785, and 885 are the same.
The 85TSS has a couple of modified parts, but very few. The SKB is a modification of an old Merkel design that hasn't changed much since the 60's.
Just found a model 600 28' at a local gun show for $350!!! The guy told me it was a 'skeet gun' (barrels marked full and impmod), also was told it was bored out to take 3' shells (forcing cones were lengthened and polished). Gun was probably 95% condition. Shot it yesterday (in a typical U.P. Spring gale) and hit 22/25 (not bad for a strange gun).
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I learned to shoot trap w/a century single from SKB. Wish I still had it, just for fun. SKB's are good starter guns, and largely underrated. Just purchased older skb w/ no identifying marks on top of barrel either side of very wide broadway vent rib. Only proof marks are - left side of barrel by chamber: 'M7IV' over '891' - right side: 'SPR' over 'SPR' - bottom of barrel: 'K' then the serial number '708XXX' then '6' then 'NP'. The only markings on this o/u shotgun that identifies this firearm other than the actual way it was manufactured is the buttplate w/ ' SKB ' lettering on it.
Nothing about Ithaca. The shotgun's entire receiver,trigger guard, and top end of barrels near the chambers is intricately & highly engraved by hand ( deep relief ). Can anyone help to identify what model? Serial # on reciever is 'CM708XXX' on bottom within the cavity made for it. Also I need to replace some of the trigger parts, the trigger itself w/ selector as well as bottom firing pin and bushing/retainer and possibly both sears. How long did it take for skb Omaha to rebuild your shotgun? Thanks for any info.
MODELS, S ERIAL NUMBERS AND MANUFACTURING DATES FOR ITHACA GUNS R eprinted with express written permission from Walter Claude Snyder ’ s books “ The Ithaca Gun Company F rom T he Beginning ” and “ I thaca Featherlight Repeaters:: The Best Gun Going:: A Complete History of the I thaca M odel 37 and the M odel 87 ”. © A ll rights reserved, copyrighted, no material with in this document may be copied or distributed in any way without the expr ess written permission of the author, Walter Claude Snyder.
Untitled MODELS, SERIAL NUMBERS AND MANUFACTURING DATES FOR ITHACA GUNS Reprinted with express written permission from Walter Claude Snyder’s books “ The Ithaca Gun Company From The Beginning” and “ Ithaca Featherlight Repeaters: The Best Gun Going: A Complete History of the Ithaca Model 37 and the Model 87”. © All rights reserved, copyrighted, no material within this document may be copied or distributed in any way without the express written permission of the author, Walter Claude Snyder. MODELS, S ERIAL NUMBERS AND MANUFACTURING DATES FOR ITHACA GUNS R eprinted with express written permission from Walter Claude Snyder ’ s books “ The Ithaca Gun Company F rom T he Beginning ” and “ I thaca Featherlight Repeaters:: The Best Gun Going:: A Complete History of the I thaca M odel 37 and the M odel 87 ”.
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